Showing posts with label Muslim. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Muslim. Show all posts

Monday, January 12, 2015

Before You Argue the Point, Know Your Bible First

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by guest blogger Andrew Roman

This is not a religious post. 

But if conservatives – whom, by every measure available, already give more money to charity than our socially-conscious, deeply-caring liberal brethren (*cough*) – contributed a mere dime apiece to favorite charities for every leftist counter-argument they heard based on either pure emotion or hackneyed talking points, there would not be a single homeless, hungry, or shoeless human being in all the land. There might even be enough coin left over to wipe out a few diseases and have every alley cat in Brooklyn spayed or neutered.

Since the Paris terrorist attacks, among those who actually admit that Islamists were responsible, debate has been hot and heavy in all media corners regarding exactly what the Koran actually says and means. What does it endorse? Are these kinds of barbaric acts really acceptable to Allah? And what of all the barbarity in the Hebrew and Christian Bibles? How can we criticize the Koran when the Old Testament, in particular, is rife with such brutal and vulgar displays?

Often quoted by atheists and religious skeptics, considered to be the benchmark example of primitive justice, cruelty and incivility in the Bible is Exodus 23-25:
 “And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,  Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,  Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”
The famous “eye for an eye” verse…
 
After all, to a civilized, sophisticated culture, what could be more barbarous than the idea of cutting out someone’s eye as a dispersal of justice? The concept – and the belief in a God that would issue such an edict – is as primordial as giving up your seat for a woman on the subway, or wishing someone a Merry Christmas without being absolutely sure of their own religious leanings.

How many times have we heard this nugget, attributed to Gandhi: “An eye for an eye simply makes the whole world blind.”

Adorable. That's right up there with "War Is Not the Answer." Indeed, war isn't the answer ...if the question is, "What is the square root of 116?"

But that’s not what it means. That’s not what it has ever meant. But as is the wont of the emotions-first, bumper-sticker-lovin' left, the jerking knee does so in a reflex of emotion and ignorance, not honesty or historical context.  One does not have to be a believer to understand what the aforementioned Bible verse is meant to convey;  And if there were intellectual honesty on the left, regardless of one’s religious belief, one would see that the verse is not primitive, in the least. In fact, it can be looked at as a great step forward - a progressive step, if you will – in the history of jurisprudence.

Never in human history were members of the so-called lower classes – peasants, indentured servants, etc - considered to be on an equal level in any way as those in the royal or ruling classes. Contrary to the tiresome and uninspired “every god is just an angry, cruel, vicious man in the sky” arguments, the Bible actually invents a hardcore liberal value: equality. 

The verse establishes that everyone’s “eye” or “hand” is equal, regardless of economic and social status. A rich man’s eye was no more valuable on the scales of justice than a poor man’s eye.  

That concept is a big deal.

It creates equality in law – something that the left should adore as much as windmills. Thus, if an eye is taken, one could not seek two eyes as a form of just punishment.  This is true equality that transcends class – something the left is really big on.

The “eye for eye” concept simply cannot be taken literally, because it could never be executed consistently or justly (save for the idea of a life for a life, which I will touch upon in a moment). In fact, one cannot cite a single example of that kind of literal justice being metered out in the Bible anywhere. It just is not possible to reserve and carry out justice in punishment to that which could literally replicate the crime – as much as many of us would love to see it done in certain instances. 

Besides, equivalent physical damage could never be exacted in this way during that time period. There were no top flight medical facilities thousands of years ago. Antibiotics were still millennia away. Scooping out an eye could literally lead to death – and by definition, that would be contrary to the rule. One would think God is wise enough to understand this.

Additionally, if we take the verse literally, could a blind person escape justice with no working eyes to extract?

The exception here is the justice of a life for a life – that one who murders the innocent (and the word “murder” is key here) shall not be able to keep his or her own life. This law appears in each of the first five books of the Bible, known to Jews as the Torah. It is the only law to appear in each the Torah’s five books. To take an innocent life by way of murder means that the murderer no longer has the right to keep his or her own life.

And how do we know this is to be taken literally, whereas the “eye for an eye” verses are not?

The Bible actually states that one cannot ransom a human life (Psalm 49:8) – meaning that no amount of bartering, bargaining or deal making can ever be made as to make the loss of that murdered life "even." There is no provision, however, prohibiting the ransom of a body part such as an “eye” or a “hand.”

I would be willing to guarantee that most on the left have never even heard these arguments based not only on the biblical text itself, but on centuries and centuries of scholarly examination and discussion. 

To the left, the phrase “eye for an eye” sounds so awful, so unevolved, so close-minded … thus those who are repulsed by the idea of a transcendent creator making the rules have ammunition – albeit in the form of intellectually inane bullets – to shoot down religion in the name of civility and reason. 

The problem is: I’ve heard this argument come from so-called moderate Muslims as proof that all faiths have their questionable doctrines to wrestle with.

Well, to be fair.... indeed, they do (the word "Israel" literally means "struggle with God") … but “eye for eye” is not one of them. 

Try again.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Obama in His Own Words

Here's some video to go with today's Quote de jour...


Arrogance or naiveté ? Both? In any event, we cannot have someone with Obama's fairy tale view of the world leading our country for the next four years.

Thursday, October 21, 2010

Bill O'Reilly Interviews the Fired Juan Williams



Liberals with the pretense of tolerance fire another liberal for appearing on Fox News expressing an opinion.

Video via Say Anything

Thursday, September 9, 2010

Obama on Burning the Quran

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President Obama has opined on the "wisdom" of a Florida pastor burning the Koran this coming 9/11:

President Obama is encouraging a Florida minister to "listen to those better angels" and call off his plan to engage in Quran-burning this weekend.

Obama, on "Good Morning America", said that he hopes the Rev. Terry Jones of Florida listens to people who have asked him to call off the plan. The president characterized it as a "stunt."

"If he's listening, I hope he understands that what he's proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans. That this country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance."


Wait! Isn't this the same President who championed the legality and right of Muslims to build a mosque and community center in the shadow of Ground Zero, but refused to comment on "the wisdom of it"?

Here we have a Florida pastor, exercising his right of free speech and suddenly, Obama finds his voice? Or did he just get bumped a "pay grade" when we weren't looking?

I'll comment on the "wisdom" of burning the Quran: It's a bad idea. It is, you will excuse the pun, inflammatory. If the good pastor ever hopes to reach out to any Muslims with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, he will find even more resistance to what begins as a daunting task.

Aside from the peril it might increase for our troops on foreign soil and at home, it is an unnecessary bit of political theater unbefitting a supposed minister of God.

But, as even a blind pig can find an acorn occasionally, Obama characterized this as "a stunt", and so it well may be. It seems to be one way to make the point, that although some things are legally permitted, they can often be inflammatory or unwise, perhaps the Apostle Paul with his whole "cause your brother to stumble*" message had the right idea after all?

I suspect that at the last minute, with all the cameras rolling and the attention of a news cycle starved media circus attending, that the pastor will refrain from burning any books and declare the principle that just because something is legal doesn't mean you should always do it...like that Mosque at Ground Zero.

Then he could exhort them to use most of the arguments public figures have used against him and apply them to the so called "Ground Zero Mosque" in NYC.

And then, sit back and watch the spin.


*I Corinthians 10:23 "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not." -KJV

H/T Rob Port

Cross posted at Left Coast Rebel, Lady Cincinnatus, Say Anything

Thursday, August 26, 2010

"Does Islam Suck?"


David Swindle over at News Real Blog posted this video of Andrew "Klavan on the culture". I might not have published it myself, but I came across an individual on a discussion forum who was either not too bright or not too honest. After reading the last post I* put up with a question mark in the headline (That's that little squiggly thingy at the end of the sentence!), he concluded:

"I stumbled on a blog that is fanning the flames of this Muslim rumor"
Stumbled could be apropos! He was referring to my post on the Pew poll about Obama's religion:
Is Obama a Muslim?


Is it "fanning the flames" to merely repeat the question? The reason I might question this person's aptitude or honesty, is that while he obviously took exception to what was said in the article, he linked to the site rather than specifically to the post in question. If you care to, you can decide for yourself whether or not I was "fanning the flames" of this rumor by reporting the existence of the poll and exploring why people might believe what they do. Though I will admit the line about the dog was meant to be tongue in cheek, I concluded the article by saying:

Obama's faith or lack thereof, is his own business. There's nothing wrong with being a Muslim, if he is one. The only problem would be if he had lied about it or mislead anyone about it for political expediency.

I think more people have a problem with his character and his economics than worry about his religion.


Cletus: You talked about "their idiotic conclusion that because Obama has a Muslim name, he must be one". Only, I didn't mention anything about his name other than to call him by it. Is this not customary on your planet as well? And I never said he was a Muslim, I don't know. Which part of "I think more people have a problem with his character and his economics than worry about his religion" didn't you understand?

So, Clete, in honor of your straw man argument, this post's for you!

*A couple of other writers on the blog have used the little squiggly, er, question mark in their headlines since!

Thursday, August 19, 2010

Obama in Muslim Garb

The picture in the post below was not Photoshopped®...unlike this one!

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Is Obama a Muslim?

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That seems to be the buzz around the water cooler these days. And strangely, the more people get to know him, the more they either think he is a Muslim or they're just not sure.

According to a recent Pew Research Center poll, nearly one-in-five Americans (18%) now say that Obama is a Muslim, while only 11% thought so in March 2009.

43% say that they don't know, compared to 34% in March of '09. And this poll was taken before Obama's pronouncement (and take back) on the Ground Zero mosque/ community center.

Why would anyone think that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim? Let's see... his father was a Muslim. That's enough for some people to consider him a Muslim by birth.

There was the infamous (Freudian?) slip of the tongue when he spoke to Tom Brokaw about his “Muslim faith” during the campaign. Then there's his praise of Muslim prayer calls...

"One of the prettiest sounds on earth" is the Muslim call to prayer at sunset."

-Barack Hussein Obama

How about the direction by this administration of NASA, an agency founded to foster space exploration, to reach out to Muslims?
It's bad enough that the space program has been gutted of its original mission. It certainly doesn't need any touchy feely busy work!

Then there's the fact that Obama has not regularly attended any even nominally Christian church regularly, much less joined one, since he failed to pay attention at "Reverend" Wright's church?

But, what about Bo the dog? Don't Muslims consider dogs to be unclean? Well, it's not like Obama puts the dog on a separate plane when they fly anywhere! Oh, wait!

Look for Obama to borrow Bill Clinton's ten pound Bible and darken the door of a few churches between now and 2012.

Obama's faith or lack thereof, is his own business. There's nothing wrong with being a Muslim, if he is one. The only problem would be if he had lied about it or mislead anyone about it for political expediency.

I think more people have a problem with his character and his economics than worry about his religion.